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After reading my report about SC5, Daishi Odashima replied on his Twitter and just gave informations about SC5 to confirm what I said and give more details about the gameplay.
Daishi Odashima & Kayane at EVO 2011
Guard Burst : If you keep guarding, the life bar flashes from yellow to red until the guard breaks. The system is called “Guard Burst”.
Attacks like 3B will easily become a guaranteed hit. It recovers from red to yellow to normal after a certain time.
Guard Impact : It uses 25% of the Soul Gauge.
Single command 4A+B+K which repels all H, M, L attacks. Uses 25% of the gauge. Doesn’t work on throws, unblockables and CE.
It’s pretty powerful. The existing system was OK for advanced players but others couldn’t use the repel & parry effectively.
4G,1G,6G,3G inputs were complicated so we made it just one command (there were feedback saying it came out unintentionally as well).
Using GI on 2A won’t give you much fame advantage but Mitsurugi’s 66A+B will give you a huge advantage.
Just Guard : Just before an attack hits, press G to do a standing or crouching JG (2 frame buffer).
When successful your guard stun time reduces to a set frame. All attacks can be GI.
Just Guarding big attacks will give more frame advantage than small attacks.
Mapping G to multiple buttons and using slide input won’t work. Pressing G rapidly won’t work either.
Critical Gauge : Fills up to 200% at MAX
Being active and taking action fills up the gauge. Hitting the opponent, making them block, doing ukemi etc.
Critical Edge : Uses 100% of the Gauge. The command is 236236A+B+K. The timing has been balanced to be very easy so any one can pull it off.
You can think of it as a powerful version of standard attacks. Damage and speed varies (10 – 40F start-up, 40 – 160 damage).
Properties also vary: some have impact properties, some have invincibilty against high attacks, etc.
Until the start-up animation plays (screen freeze), it can be stopped with standard moves. Once it plays it’s unstoppable
Brave Edge : Uses 50% of the Gauge
ZWEI’s low in same time as EIN’s mid : Daishi Odashima confirmed it’s possible and make the Zwei’s low not possible to guard then. BUT, it’s a very STRICT timing.
My thoughts : Anyway, I think even if the timing to do it in same time is strict, I think it’s still a lot of pressure to have Zwei and Ein’s moves to protect.
Thanks to Daishi Odashima for his time !
I’m going to post my impressions of the impressions here, if you don’t mind. I’d like to see what you think of this idea, and hopefully Daishi reads this also. It might be easier for him to see on here, as 140 characters is limiting and this idea is hard to explain in few words.
On the Just Guard: I was originally very concerned, now I’m just somewhat concerned. I think a small fix could get rid of the community’s concerns.
The problem: people are seeing this technique as potentially low risk/high effort/high reward.
Solution: make the reward more difficult to use.
Here’s my idea: Instead of having the effects of JG be on the guarder, throw the effects on the attacker.
Instead of reducing the blockstun of the person who JG’s, give that window to the attacker, as a period of time his attacks will not come out. Allow the attacker to do the following while in this state:
Guard, Just Guard, Crouch, GI, throw break, or quick step.
I believe , depending on the attack, a JG would change the game in this manner:
On attacks that give +frames normally- they’d go to -frames. This would give slower characters a chance to « get a turn » and discourage spamming.
On attacks that give small amounts of -frames normally. They wouldn’t become punishable, but you’d be able to throw a very nasty throw/launcher mixup. It would force a mindgame, and would reward people who knew their character’s options.
On attacks that are already punishable- it would give the choice of taking the free damage, or going for a massive mixup. JG isn’t really needed for punishable attacks, so the impact here is minimal either way.
I think this would be a fairer system, as this would prevent a « lucky » JG (which will happen, how many times have you guarded just in time), from being as game-changing as it could have been without an additional good decision, and it would keep the best idea behind the JG, which is to allow slower characters to be able to deal with inferior frames a little more easily.
If this was the system that was in the game- how would you (as a top player) go about maximizing the advantages of this system?
I love the other changes in the game that I’ve read about, it’s just this one change that has me a little worried, and most of that comes from what I’ve seen in other fighters such as 3rd Strike and Mark of the Wolves.
…unless he got retconned, I’m wondering what would happen if JGed one of Algol’s bubble in SCV… gives you health perhaps?? >_<
Thanks a lot Kayane. It is a great relief to read the above.